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Post by Countess on Oct 13, 2024 0:24:12 GMT
Barbara taps his foot back, an acknowledgement. All she wants is for him to be comfortable. From there, she can work on him being happy. She turns her attention over to Johnny on Dames' other side. Giving him a look, a bit of smile, she tries to let him know everything is okay. There is something else in her look- thankfulness. He's doing great, and Babs can't help but appreciate him.
"Yeah, he and I worked on the Watchtower together, Dames," she tells him, flushed a bit from pride and good wine. "He helped me with a lot of the more technical stuff, designing, and application, while I brought the organizing, engineering, and coordinating. It was a really nice time, honestly. I am looking forward to working with him again," she says, smiling to herself as she takes a final bite of her pizza. Once finished, she reaches over for another slice.
"Tony was not actually in the Justice League," Barbara says, taking a bite of her new slice. "Common misconception. We invited him, definitely, but he didn't want any part of a team. More of a solo act. He was still willing to work with me, though, which was generous. I think it was just because I tempted him with quite the project," she says, shrugging. In truth, she doesn't know why he decided to help her and, by extension, the Justice League all those years ago. "I am hoping to get him to join still, though. Maybe I can ask him again, soon," she says, but there is a confusing note of sadness in her tone. While she knows, the others are not aware of his condition. Her hope isn't so much that he will join... but that he will live long enough to get the invitation.
Babs crinkles her nose. "Hopefully, he won't have that damn assistant by the time that happens," she mutters, a very alien note of vitriolic malice on her tongue. There is tea there.
"What is your most embarrassing memory?" Babs says, pivoting away from her thoughts on Desiree Allard.
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Post by Nomz on Oct 13, 2024 0:50:14 GMT
Damian quietly takes notes on the conversation, fitting pieces together to make a picture of the league. Strangely, he finds himself wanting to meet this Tony that Barbara and Johnny speak so highly of, needing to understand for himself what makes him great. He will research this man after dinner.
Curious eyes glance at Johnny to see if he is watching before Damian tries to place another slice of his pizza on the man's plate. The one slice he ate has sated his hunger and now he looks to distribute the food where it might be consumed. If allowed, he smirks and looks away. If stopped, he frowns and tries to sneak the pizza onto Barbara's plate.
"Does he want to join? It sounds as if this Stark cannot make up his mind on if he wants in or out. Denying the opportunity when presented, but still reaches out to assist when he can." The boy frowns a little. "He should decide: in or out."
At Barbara's new question, Damian sits back in his chair and stares at the apartment at large. Embarrassment, he knew, was a feeling of self-consciousness, shame, or awkwardness. He cannot recall a time he was awkward or a time he was self-conscious. Shame? There is a surprisingly deep well to pick from. But what was appropriate for the scene?
"I-" He pauses with words waiting on his tongue to glance between the two adults. Would they listen? Grayson and Drake had not and Cain did not understand.
"We got a call about a robbery in progress. I was with a group of civilians and two police officers. I could hear my partner having difficulties over our coms. My thoughts were that I could leave the civilians with the police to assist, so I did so."
A soft exhale precedes his next words, "Red was fine in the end, however, the civilians and police suffered further injuries. I had thought I was doing the right thing and I was told I was wrong." Dark curls fall over his eyes as Damian looks at his plate, heat radiating in his ears again.
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Post by Beriadan on Oct 13, 2024 15:00:13 GMT
"Huh. TIL, right? Well, maybe he'll be more tempted with me on board now! If I ever meet him, I'll put in a good word for the League."
Johnny smirked as he took a bite of ultra-spicy pizza. It was hard to keep up with the amount of Heroes these days, especially after Enchantress and New York. Johnny assumed most of the big names had been in the Justice League at some time or another. He doesn't disagree with Damian, though he knows there is more nuance than that. Johnny knew first-hand, especially after the end of the Fantastic Four.
Embarrassing memory? He listened to Damian speak his truth. It probably wasn't what Babs had been going for. The kid obviously had a troubled past.
"Happens to the best of us, kid. In a situation like that, you've got to make a choice, and you just have to go with your gut. Making the decision is the hard part. Don't worry about it, Damian. You did what you thought was right, and that's the important part."
Johnny gave the kid a kind smile, but... what, exactly, was he doing stopping robberies? He glanced at Babs, a slightly raised eyebrow. A question for later. Johnny took a drink of his wine, pausing for a thought.
"Apart from the first time my powers manifested and I ended up buck-naked on the Golden Gate Bridge? A video that still makes the rounds on all the social media sites, by the way. I guess it might be... maybe dating the daughter of a wizard who was actually sent to trick us into fighting the Frightful Four. That was embarrassing. Never trust anyone who doesn't mention that their father is a super evil wizard on their Tinder app."
Johnny raised his glass to Babs, winking across the table, and took a drink.
"C'mon, Babs. Two different tone of story here, so the balls in your court!"
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Post by Countess on Oct 13, 2024 17:10:14 GMT
"I don't know," Barbara answers Damian. "Tony is really... complicated, even if he doesn't like people knowing that," she says, thinking on him now. "He's the kind of guy that I think was taught a lot of wrong things about what makes a man a man... and that weakness isn't something he is supposed to have or show," she says, lifting her glass of almost finished wine to her lips but not sipping from it. She just holds it there, trying to piece Tony together a little more. "Like, if he was on a team, it doesn't just mean people relying on him, it means him relying on other people. Not only could they fail him, but worse, he could fail them," she says, shaking her head a bit. "I understand why he has one foot in and one foot out. Commitment is hard, tying yourself to other people is accepting other people you cannot control. The best we can do is be thankful for what he offers us," she says, nodding. She paints a picture of someone Tony does not want to be seen as: lonely and afraid. So many people are, though, and it is so easily remedied. It just takes trust. But that's... really, really hard. Even Barbara has her issues, still.
"He would definitely be tempted to join now you're there," Babs says, laughing a little. It isn't derisive, just a joining in on the silliness. "I mean- do you want to? Meet him, I mean. You could help me with recruitment," she says, laughing. It might have to wait a little while. He doesn't want anyone to see him in this state. Pride is a silly thing. If she can save his damn life, though, she is going to hold that so over his head, until he joins or makes an arc reactor for the Watchtower. Whichever comes first.
What a project that would be... Something to distract her from-
"Dames," Babs says, not not willing to stop herself from touching him. She places a hand on his shoulder. "Red Robin took out his frustration on you, rather than the real issue. Emotions can get high... it doesn't excuse what he did, but it may provide context. We all make bad calls," Barbara says, trying to reassure him. "It is how we learn, how we get better. You think I always make the right calls? Or Johnny? No, we fuck up, fall flat on our face, and have to pick ourselves up," she says, eyebrows knitting together. She is going to have words with Tim. "Every mission goes a little sideways. Rolling with the punches is a big part of it. I bet you learned something from the experience, right?"
Pieces might start to fit together for Johnny. Barbara was Batgirl... this kid is her "brother"... they worked with Red Robin....
"Oh my God, I remember that!" Barbara says. She was so young, did not understand it really until she got... older. Never, ever, ever is she going- oh. Oh that's a good embarrassing thing. Okay.
Barbara's face is in her hand. She moves it just to finish off her glass. "My embarrassing moment is now. Johnny, when I was a teenager, I had a poster of you on my wall," she says, face getting red. Anything to get Dames out of the hole he is in. "...... it was on the ceiling, next to Tony, Dr. Bruce Banner, Dr. Michael Holt, Dr. Hank Pym, and Dr. Adam Brashear," she says, groaning into her hands. "I swear, it was because they are in STEM! That's- I am really impressed by your work, Johnny, you.... and other people.... got me into a lot of the work I do now," she says, still refusing to look at him. He doesn't need to know the poster wasn't exactly from Engineering Weekly. "I also had a poster of your sister, Dr. Daphne Koller, Dr. Marie Curie.... but they... yeah. Weren't exactly... yeah."
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Post by Nomz on Oct 13, 2024 18:20:00 GMT
Damian does not like Tony Stark nor the way Barbara and Johnny talk about him. He seems a bit unstable and overly complicated. His distaste shows in the downward curl of his frown.
Even so, he finds himself glancing up when Johnny doesn't start berating him. The man offers Damian understanding where he thought he would not find it and that means something to him. He musters his courage and says in a tone almost too low to be heard, "Thank you, Storm."
Damian turns his head sharply when his sister touches his shoulder, not having expected the touch, and the muscles along his arms tense in defense. Upon seeing her, his body relaxes to show he understands she is not a threat. He takes in her words, but they seem to leave him with more questions. Did Barbara think he made the wrong choice? Johnny seems content that Damian had done what felt right. Something he will have to ask later.
"You were naked on the Golden Gate Bridge," Damian asks, nose wrinkled in disgust as he struggles not to imagine the scene in his head. If he thought that would be the worst of it, his sister bests them both.
"That is foul," he groans, letting his head fall back against his chair and groaning at the ceiling. Bandaged hands come up to smother his face as if he can erase the images from his mind. "Brown warned me about people like you. She called them 'Simps.' I did not know you were a Simp, Barbara Gordon. I am utterly disappointed and disgusted."
An exhausted, pleading green eye peeks out from his fingertips at Johnny. "If you have any mercy, end me please."
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Post by Beriadan on Oct 13, 2024 18:48:50 GMT
Johnny was uncharacteristically quiet as he processed the information presented to him. Barbara Gordon was a damn Torchie?! A member of his often fanatical fantasy who collected every signed bit of merch that he put out into the world? A large, dumb grin spread across his face.
"I never forget a face. It takes me a while, but... Gotham Hero Convention, 201X! We did a Fantastic Four panel. You got me to sign a poster! You're a Torchie, Barbara Gordon! Sorry, I need a second to process-"
Johnny was on his feet, hands over his mouth as he smiled like an absolute idiot.
"No dice, Damian, this is legitimately the best day of my life. Barbara, Oracle, had a signed poster of me on her wall. Do you still have it? Those things are worth a bomb these days! And -"
Another cog turned in Johnny's brain. He stopped, looking between the two of them. Red Robin. He knew that name too. Partner? That wasn't an unknown pair for a Superhero simp like Johnny. If that was the case, then Damian was part of a larger family - one that was known in Gotham and elsewhere. Johnny's eyes went wide as he stared at Barbara and Damian, sparkling with absolute hero worship.
"You're not just Oracle - oh my god. Batgirl?! Robin?!"
He hissed the names through his teeth. Secret identities were important to certain people, and the Batfamily especially. Nobody even knew who Batman really was, not anyone who would say it anyway. He took a seat opposite them, head in his hands.
"Oh, shit. Babs. I have a poster of you in my room."
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Post by Countess on Oct 13, 2024 19:09:09 GMT
"Johnny has been naked in a lot of places," Barbara mutters into her now empty wine glass with a snicker. She reaches over to the decanter, pouring herself a glass. Then, she taps Damian, pointing at Johnny's glass. Once she gets it, she refills his as well. Simple, easy, not a word said between them.
"Yeah, Dames, your sister is a simp," Babs says, laughing. "Well- Torchie if you are a simp for the Human Torch, but I have my fair share of crushes and unrequited loves.... To the point of making a fool of myself sometimes, yeah," she says, face still very, very red. Most embarrassing moment... so far. She wants Dames to see her comfortable talking about her emotions so he does too.. but god damn. This is like pulling teeth. "I even still have some crushes," she says, shrugging. "But I'm not out vying for attention anymore like when I was younger. That is the key difference, Dames, I am not obsessing," she says, smiling, trying to make this about anything other than-
"Oh my God, Johnny, no," Barbara says, face getting red all over again. "You do not remember me," she says, clearly in denial as he continues. At least his grin is infectious. Hers is as wide as his, laugher continually bubbling up. Damian's exasperation certainly adds to the hilarity of the moment. About to vehemently deny still having it (in this home, clever girl), she suddenly sees the shift in him. Her laughter dies down, eyes narrowing. She takes a sip of her wine, wondering just what has him so-
Then he looks at them like he did Superman. Oh no. Please not-
Barbara groans, loud and audibly. "Please, I really haven't gone by that since I was in my early twenties," she says, rolling her eyes. About to say something else- he has her poster, too? Well...
Adopting the most Johnny grin she can, Barbara says, "Want me to sign it?" Well, if she is going to die of embarrassment, she might as well go all in and have fun doing it.
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Post by Nomz on Oct 13, 2024 20:14:27 GMT
"This is the worst day of my life," Damian groans as the two 'adults' go off about having each other's posters and being fans and over just two giant Simps pretending to be old and wise-
"You can't lie to me, Barbara Joan Gordon. I know your father and where you live." He doesn't flinch at the fact that he sounds so much like Grayson. All Damian can do is try to survive the sheer tide of- "You two are so cringe, for real. It's giving little old ladies talking about Nightwing's ass. Like, just kill me, no cap."
His chair scrapes against the floor as Johnny calls him 'Robin' and he decides then and there that he is done with the title. Brown or Drake can take it back like the nursery blanket they claim it to be. Still, there is one more card he can play.
Knowing that he may live to regret it, Damian walks over to the closet near the front door, pulls it open, and reaches for a hidden compartment towards the back. He pushes his newest costume to the side, reaching for the bright yellow tool belt of the Robin costume. After a moment, he closes the door and purposely walks straight for Johnny.
"These were meant for fans, according to Spoiler." He grimaces as he hands over what looks like a playing card. On the back is the bright yellow Robin insignia. On the front is a shadowed picture of Damian in full Robin attire with Gotham as a backdrop. In the corner and written in black sharpie is the most graceful signature- Robin. "Since I am no longer Robin and you get to have it."
It isn't said that Johnny is the only person to get one of these little cards or that they're typically meant for the children of Gotham as bragging rights. Damian huffs as he takes his pizza to the kitchen, preparing to put food away.
"Tell anyone and you won't live to see the next dawn."
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Post by Beriadan on Oct 13, 2024 20:27:55 GMT
Johnny looked up, eyes alive with hope and wonder.
"Yes! Would you actually? That would really make my collection pop. No joke!"
He grinned, and then looked across at Damian. Johnny saw the discomfort in the boy's face, and that made his uncle senses tingle.
"Oh, come on, Damian! Haven't you ever met your heroes? It's cool to be cringe these days, right? I vibe cringe. I think cringe is totes dope, dawg."
But the small gesture melted Johnny's heart. Whether or not Damian meant it as a joke, he looked at the signed copy of Robin's picture with delight.
"This is - genuinely - amazing. Thank you! Listen, you're not going to go without Human Torch merch for a long time. But I won't tell anyone! Our secret~"
Johnny grinned as he slipped it into his wallet - besides his Superman Fanclub Card - and took his refilled glass for a drink.
"I can't believe it. Okay, okay, next question. Celebrity crush. Superhero or otherwise!"
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Post by Countess on Oct 13, 2024 20:50:40 GMT
Barbara just starts laughing harder when Damian busts out her full name. "Your spells have no power on me," she says, eyes twinkling with mirth. She's trying hard not to cry from the silliness of it all, a deep warmth settling in her from good food, good friends, and good conversation. "I am not obsessed anymore, better?" she says, still laughing. It feels nice, this. She hopes he feels it, too. "And... to be fair, Nightwing has a great ass, shame he's such an ass," she says, laughter dying a bit. Babs settles, wiping tears from the corners of her eyes, absolutely pleased.
"Sure, Johnny, of course I'll sign it," Babs says, not being malicious with him at all. How can she? Never be mean to your fans. More than that, he's just so damn genuine about it all. She isn't sure she could ever really embarrass him. Given everything he's admitting of his own free will, he's just not a guy that has a ton of shame.
When Damian scampers off, she lets him go, not all that worried quite yet. If she hears the front door open, then she will worry. Instead, it is the closet, and he returns with one of his signed cards. Her heart swells. He really must like Johnny, to do that. He didn't have to, but he did. Granted, the cards are for kids, but Johnny is kind of a big kid himself.
No longer Robin? When did that happen? Something to discuss later.
When Johnny and she are alone in the dining room, Babs places a hand on his forearm, just to have a moment with him. "Thanks," she says, and its meaningful to her. He can see it in her eyes. "I've never heard him talk like a kid before," she says, looking away from Johnny to the kitchen as her eyes mist over. She blinks it away. "I owe you, Johnny. Name it, I'll get it, do it, anything. You've made a Torchie for life outta me," she says, giggling a little.
From there, she grabs a few things off the table, helping Dames clear it off. She pauses at Johnny's question, balking a bit. Celebrity crush?
"That's hard- I know most of the Supes," she says, thinking. If she were brave, she'd admit to something soft developing for Johnny, but that's not something she's going to do anything about any time soon. They work together... and she knows what it is like to have a messy relationship with the people you work with. Besides- if he wants something, God knows he would say it, no shame and all. Maybe its the Torchie in her. Fuck, Dames was right... she is a simp. "Honestly, I have run into this guy a few times at big wig events... Einár Brígh. A Bruce Wayne, Matias Jacinto type with a Scottish Accent. What's not to love?"
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Post by Nomz on Oct 14, 2024 1:07:47 GMT
If anyone could die from a glare, it would be the cringey uncle at Damian's table and his terrible torchie of a sister. As it stands, the boy merely preens under the obvious gratitude in Johnny's voice as he accepts the card from him.
"As long as it is comfortable, I do not care what your merch looks like," he says in reply to their new secret. Did it count as a secret if Barbara was in on it? Damian does not know and he does not care. He just knows that it is nice to share something with someone.
Damian rolls his eyes as he hears the low tones of the adults behind him, turning on the water in the sink to drown it out a bit more. There are some things he is not meant to hear and this feels like one of those things. He tests the water for temperature before moving dishes to one side of the sink and putting in the stopper. Slowly, the right side starts to fill with hot, soapy water.
His nose wrinkles as the water turns off and he hears Johnny's next question for the group. Green eyes stare at Storm from under dark eyelashes, "I don't have time for such nonsense. Crushes and sexual attraction are distractions that will get even the most skilled warriors killed."
"Einár Brígh?" That name isn't actually familiar to him despite the familiarity Barbara speaks with. Then something else strikes him. "Why would you want someone who is remotely like Mr. Wayne? He is a disgrace. Did you see the video of him half-naked and dancing at the Iceberg Lounge a few years back?"
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Post by Beriadan on Oct 15, 2024 9:09:50 GMT
"I don't know that one. Bruce Wayne, I've met him though. I think I'm in that video."
Johnny laughed, grinning at Damian's obvious dislike of Mr. Wayne. Though it did seem odd, a boy that young knowing the old exploits of a sitting Senator. Was he big into politics, or something?
"Ive always had a thing for Emma Frost. I think it's the blue lipstick, or her frosty aura. That woman gives me the chills, and I love it. Oh, and I had a thing with an alien once, although..."
Johnny paused, suddenly solem. He picked up his wine, frowning into the glass.
"That didn't end well."
He knocked back the drink, shrugging to nothing and nobody. Then he glanced up at Damian with a little nod of affirmation, raising his empty glass in salute.
"I totally agree! Especially when there's so many hot supervillains who try and take advantage of an innocent, handsome man such as myself. The amount of times I've been beaten because I got distracted... well, that was my younger days, anyway."
Johnny's mood shifted again, and he laughed as he rose to his feet, pointing to Barbara's glass.
"Another, Ms. Gordon?"
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Post by Countess on Nov 7, 2024 23:04:06 GMT
"I mean... Dames, uhh..." Barbara says, looking away. How does she tell him that Bruce is an attractive man without gushing? If she didn't know him, she would likely think of him the same way that she thinks of Brígh- that is, as an assumption rather than a person. Parasocial relationships are easy in this day and age. Objectively, Bruce is... something. Knowing him, though, really ruins it. The man is obsessive, secretive, a self made Martyr bent on burning himself alive to keep the world warm. Babs can't... handle that. Not when all she wants to do is take care of someone. He would suck her dry, and leave a bitter husk. He almost did, and their relationship has been strictly platonic.
"He seems fun, and I could really use some fun, Dames," she says instead. Good smokescreen. Dames' answer is one that she expected, but takes at face value. Maybe that opinion will change, maybe it won't. People don't need others to feel complete, and if they do, well... they are doing something wrong. Babs learned that one the hard way. She turns to Johnny, understanding something deeper about him that she doesn't think he meant to voice. "Frost! I- well, I can see the draw," she says, chuckling. "I've met her. She is... exacting, brilliant, and a force to be reckoned with. A lot to be admired," she says, grinning. The woman is goals incarnate.
There is moment that a cloud goes over Johnny. The only reason Babs notices it is because of the stark contrast to how he usually behaves. Even the slightest darkness is so obvious in comparison to his smile. Gently, she reaches out, placing a hand on his forearm. It isn't because of any little crush or being a Torchie, but rather because she cares. She doesn't think she has ever seen him show this side of him, and while she wants to acknowledge it, she doesn't want him to build up a wall to keep her out. Babs is used to those in her family, where encouraging them to rely on her is somewhere between a tightrope act and an uphill battle. If he glances at her, Babs gives his arm a squeeze, then lets go.
That should be enough. "I'm here," it all says. He has seen her do this with Damian, a quiet love that comes carefully and kindly.
"Another sounds great," Babs says, smiling. She holds out her glass to him, setting it down so she can start with some of the clean up, too. "Care to stay for a movie, Johnny? I was thinking Die Hard, Dames hasn't seen it," she says, looking over to her kid brother. "Your turn, kiddo. Got a question?"
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Post by Nomz on Nov 8, 2024 14:21:15 GMT
If his eyes could get stuck in his head, they would have by how hard Damian rolled them. "If you were in the video, I may need to soak my eyes in a bath of bleach and ammonia. Hopefully, the lovely aroma will put me out of the misery of imagining the type of fun you allude to, Barbara."
There is a stubborn wrinkle to his nose as he cleans the few dishes that remain. The suds rolling over his hands serves to distract him until Johnny's voice disturbs his few seconds of zen. Damian glances over at the man, watching as he stands and laughs. His sister and Storm set about getting more drinks and Damian refocuses on his task, shifting his feet on the supportive mat under him.
"Die Hard-" He pauses, mind going back to their earlier comments of 'fun' and disgust twists his features. He may be young, but even he can understand the many definitions of 'hard.' Suds fling into the sink as he shakes his hands, rounding on the duo. "If this is a 'fun'-" and he uses the air quotes he's seen Grayson use, "-movie, then I shall have none of it. We can watch Life of Pi instead."
His expression fades into one of quiet contemplation, and his gaze falls to the ground. Too many questions come to mind, making his choice just that much harder. What qualifies as a good question? What is appropriate to ask of both his sister and this new person? What would he not mind answering himself?
"Have you ever felt lost?"
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Post by Beriadan on Nov 8, 2024 20:25:22 GMT
Johnny gave a little shiver.
"Oof, don't even say her name. That woman is ice cold!"
The hand on his forearm was unexpected. Johnny looked up at Babs, and smiled in response. She was more than he had taken her for in their first meeting. Babs was a truly kind soul. He had thought she would have put up walls against someone like him. Johnny had never expected her to be so... comforting.
After the shared moment, Johnny refilled his and her glass, feeling a bit warmer inside. Some of his memories were darker than others, but it was nice to know he had new friends to share the good times with.
"Ah, kid, Die Hard is a classic story of good versus evil, of brave heroes daring their way through impossible situations to save the day. Fun? It's a life lesson for all of us heroes! Yippee kay-yay, you'd love it!"
Johnny placed Babs' glass before her. He made himself at home on their sofa, legs folded casually, arm over the side as he watched Damian with a curious gaze.
"Well-"
Johnny couldn't count how many times the Fantastic Four had been lost in time, space or in-between, but he wasnt sure that's what Damian meant. He frowned, swilling the wine before taking a drink. Maybe it was the booze talking. Perhaps it was feeling comfortable around Babs and her brother. Whatever the cause, Johnny was feeling more open to expressing himself.
"When... my sister left the Fantastic Four, and left Ben, Reed and myself. At first I thought it was fine. Then... I dunno, I guess it became more and more apparent that it was a whole big... thing. Sue's departure made me feel totally lost. Reed was... being Reed Richards. Ben isn't exactly the most emotionally capable type... and I felt so alone. Drifting along without direction, or purpose. It felt... it felt really bad."
Johnny looked up at Babs, giving her a sad little smile.
"Then I found my family again, and now I have even more people to care about. Lost? Yeah. But my motto is not all who wander are lost. Sometimes you just need a bit of help finding the path again.
"What about you, Babs?"
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